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Energy Finance and Policy Division

Fortieth Meeting

2007-2008 Regular Session - March 17, 2008

State of Minnesota Fortieth Meeting
House of Representatives Eighty-Fifth Session

Energy Finance and Policy Division

Minutes


Representative Bill Hilty, Chair, called the fortieth meeting to order at 2:47 PM on March 17, 2008 in Room 200 of the State office Building.

The Clerk noted the roll.

Members present:

Hilty, Bill
Ruud, Maria
Westrom, Torrey
Beard, Michael
Bly, David
Brynaert, Kathy
Gardner, Paul
Gunther, Bob
Hackbarth, Tom
Hoppe, Joe
Johnson, Sheldon
Kalin, Jeremy
Knuth, Kate
Magnus, Doug
Nornes, Bud
Ozment, Dennis
Peterson, Aaron
Sailer, Brita
Slocum, Linda
Wagenius, Jean
Welti, Andy


A quorum was present.

Rep. Slocum moved approval of the minutes of March 14, 2008. The motion prevailed. The minutes were adopted with the following amendment:

Delete "Monday, February 12" and insert "Wednesday, March 12"

Rep. Hilty moved HF995.

Handout: PowerPoint presentation, The Energy Sustainability Dilemma: Powering the Future in a Finite World; David Hughes, Geological Survey of Canada, Canadian Gas Potential Committee.

Testifying in favor of the bill:

J. David Hughs, Geological Survey of Canada, Canadian Gas Potential Committee, 640 5th Ave. SW, Calgary, AB, Canada. 403-276-3056.

Norm Erickson, Rochester. 507-282-7365.

John Freise, Minneapolis. 612-377-0753.

Jack Rossbach, St. Paul. 651-488-0521.

Rep. Hilty renewed his motion that HF995 be recommended to pass and placed on the General Register. The motion prevailed. The bill was passed.

4:45 - The meeting recessed.

6:17 - The meeting reconvened.

Rep. Knuth moved HF 3195.

Rep. Knuth presented HF 3195.

Rep. Knuth moved the H3195A28 amendment.

Rep. Knuth incorporated the following oral amendment to the H3195A28:

Page 1, Line 2, delete "8" and insert “11"
Page 1, Line 3, delete “9" and insert “12"
Page 1, Line 4, after the comma, insert “Line 21"
Page 1, Line 12, delete “17" and insert “24"

Rep. Knuth renewed her motion that the H3195A28, with the incorporated changes, be adopted. The motion prevailed. The amendment was adopted.

Rep. Gunther moved the H3195A22 amendment.

Rep. Gunther incorporated the following oral amendment to the H3195A22:

Page 1, Line 2, delete “29" and insert “32"

Rep. Gunther renewed his motion that H3195A22, with the incorporated changes, be adopted.

Rep. Gunther requested a roll call vote.

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on the H3195A22 amendment.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, Ozment, and Westrom.

Those voting in the negative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Peterson, Sailer, and Welti.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ruud, Slocum, and Wagenius.

There being 6 ayes and 10 nays, the motion did not prevail.

Rep. Hackbarth moved the H3195A23 amendment.

Rep. Rep. Hackbarth requested a roll call vote.

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on the H3195A23 amendment.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, Ozment, and Westrom.

Those voting in the negative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Peterson, Sailer, and Welti.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ruud, Slocum, and Wagenius.

There being 6 ayes and 10 nays, the motion did not prevail.

Rep. Nornes moved the H3195A17 amendment.

Rep. Nornes requested a roll call vote:

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on the H3195A17 amendment.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, Ozment, and Westrom

Those voting in the negative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Peterson, Sailer, Wagenius, and Welti.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ruud, and Slocum.

There being 6 ayes and 10 nays, the motion did not prevail.

Rep. Westrom moved the H3195A21 amendment.

Rep. Westrom incorporated the following amendment to the H3195A21 amendment:

Page 1, Line 2, delete “29" and insert “32"

Rep. Westrom requested a roll call vote.

Rep. Westrom incorporated the following changes into the H3195A21:

Page 1, Line 2, after “lowered" insert “for utilities participating in a cap and trade program implemented in Minnesota, provided that all resulting tax savings are used to reduce rates to energy consumers"

Rep. Westrom laid over the H3195A21 temporarily to work with counsel on amendment language.

Rep. Hackbarth moved the H3195A24 amendment.

Rep. Hackbarth incorporated the following changes to the H3195A24 amendment:

Page 1, Line 1, delete “1" and insert “2", and delete “21" and insert “1"

Rep. Hackbarth requested a roll call vote.

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on the H3195A24 amendment.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, and Westrom.

Those voting in the negative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Peterson, Sailer, Wagenius, and Welti.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ozment, Ruud, and Slocum.

There being 5 ayes and 11 nays, the motion did not prevail.

Rep. Westrom renewed his motion to adopt the H3195A21 amendment.

Rep. Westrom moved to delete the previous incorporation and instead incorporate the following changes to the H3195A21 amendment:

Page 1, Line 2, after “lowered" and insert “for utilities"
Page 1, Line 4, before the period, insert “provided that all resulting tax savings are used to reduce rates to energy consumers"

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on the H3195A21 amendment.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, and Westrom.

Those voting in the negative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Peterson, Sailer, Wagenius, and Welti.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ozment, Ruud, and Slocum.

There being 5 ayes and 11 nays, the motion did not prevail.

Rep. Westrom asked for a roll call on the final vote on the bill.

Rep. Knuth renewed her motion that HF 3195, as amended, be recommended to pass, and returned to the committee on Finance.

The Committee Legislative Assistant took the roll on HF 3195.

Those voting in the affirmative were: Hilty, Bly, Brynaert, Gardner, Johnson, Kalin, Knuth, Ozment, Peterson, Sailer, Wagenius, and Welti.

Those voting in the negative were: Beard, Gunther, Hackbarth, Nornes, and Westrom.

Those abstaining or absent were: Hoppe, Magnus, Ruud, and Slocum.

There being 12 ayes and 5 nays, the motion prevailed. The bill was passed.

7:29 - The meeting was adjourned.


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Representative Bill Hilty, Chair


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Committee Legislative Assistant
More Info On This Meeting..

HF995 (Hilty) Peak Oil; Governor memorialized, by resolution, to take action to prepare a plan of response and preparation to meet the challenges of Peak Oil.
HF3195 (Knuth) Greenhouse gas emission cap and trade program principles established, studies required, and money appropriated. (Pending referral)