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Ways and Means

NINETEENTH MEETING

2005-2006 Regular Session - April 12, 2005

STATE OF MINNESOTA NINETEENTH MEETING
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES EIGHTY-FORTH SESSION

WAYS & MEANS COMMITTEE

MINUTES


Representative Jim Knoblach, Chair of the Ways & Means Committee, called the eigtheenth meeting to order at 4:32 p.m. on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 in Room 200 of the State Office Building.

The Clerk noted the roll.

Members present:

KNOBLACH, Jim, Chair
DEMPSEY, Jerry, Vice Chair
ABRAMS, Ron
ANDERSON, Irv
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUESGENS, Mark
CARLSON, Lyndon
CLARK, Karen
DORMAN, Dan
DORN, John
ERHARDT, Ron
GREILING, Mindy
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMILTON, Rod
HILTY, Bill
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
LARSON, Dan
MARANI, Carlos
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
OZMENT, Dennis
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SOLBERG, Loren
SYKORA, Barb
VANDEVEER, Ray
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva

Members excused:

ABELER, Jim

4:44:20 PM Representative Knoblach called the meeting to order. A quorum was present.
4:44:27 PM Representative McNamara moved that the minutes of March 4, 2005, be approved. THE MOTION PREVAILED.

HR6 (Knoblach) A house resolution setting the maximum limits on expenditures by major finance bills for the biennium in accordance with House Rule 4.03.
4:44:48 PM Representative Knoblach moved that HR8 be recommended to pass.
4:45:01 PM Representative Knoblach moved that the KNRES8A2 amendment be adopted. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.
5:54:21 PM Representative Carlson and Representative Greiling moved the KNRES8&6-4 amendment. Representative Carlson requested a roll call vote.
Representative Knoblach moved to divide the KNRES8&6-4 between lines 8&9 and vote first on lines 9-13. The results were as follows:

AYES
NAYS
ABSENT


KNOBLACH, Jim
DEMPSEY, Jerry
ABRAMS, Ron
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUSEGENS, Mark
DORMAN, Dan
ERHARDT, Ron
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMLITON, Rod
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OZMENT, Dennis
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SYKORA, Barb
VANDAVEER, Ray
ANDERSON, Irv
CARLSON, Lyndon
CLARK, Karen
DORN, John
GREILING, Mindy
HILTY, Bill
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
LARSON, Dan
MARIANI, Carlos
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
SOLBERG, Loren
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva
ABELER, Jim



6:27:21 PM
Representative Knoblach ruled the amendment out of order on rule 4.03. An appeal of the ruling of the Chair was made and a roll call was requested by Representative Greiling. The results were as follows:

AYES

KNOBLACH, Jim
DEMPSEY, Jerry
ABRAMS, Ron
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUSEGENS, Mark
DORMAN, Dan
ERHARDT, Ron
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMLITON, Rod
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OZMENT, Dennis
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SYKORA, Barb
VANDEVEER, Ray

NAYS

ANDERSON, Irv
CARLSON, Lyndon
CLARK, Karen
DORN, John
GREILING, Mindy
HILTY, Bill
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
LARSON, Dan
MARIANI, Carlos
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
SOLBERG, Loren
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva

ABSENT

ABELER, Jim


On a vote of 21 AYES and 16 NAYS THE RULING OF THE CHAIR WAS UPHELD.
6:32:43 PM Representative Rukavina moved the KNRES8&6-5 amendment and requested a roll call vote.
6:38:13 PM Representative Knoblach move to divide the KNRES8&6-5 between lines 8-9 and vote first on lines 9-13.

AYES
NAYS
ABSENT


ANDERSON, Irv
CARLSON, Lyndon
DORN, John
GREILING, Mindy
HILTY, Bill
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
LARSON, Dan
MARIANI, Carlos
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
SOLBERG, Loren
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva
KNOBLACH, Jim
DEMPSEY, Jerry
ABRAMS, Ron
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUSEGENS, Mark
DORMAN, Dan
ERHARDT, Ron
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMLITON, Rod
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OZMENT, Dennis
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SYKORA, Barb
VANDAVEER, Ray
ABELER, Jim
CLARK, Karen



On a vote of 15 AYES to 21 NAYS THE AMENDMENT WAS NOT ADOPTED.

Representative Rukavina withdrew his amendment.
6:47:31 PM Representative Huntley moved the HNRES8&6-6 amendment and requested a roll call.
6:54:16 PM Representative Knoblach moved to divide the KNRES8&6-6 amendment by: L. 1-8 and L.9-13. Representative Huntley withdrew the KNRES8&6-6 amendment.

Representative Solberg requested a roll call on HR8.

7:01:40 PM Representative Dorman moved to amend the KNRES8A2 amendment by : Delete, P.1, L.9, thru L.l5, P.2., Delete, L.15-36, P.3, Delete, L.1, thru L.5, and requested a roll call.
7:08:51 PM Representative Knoblach restated the Dorman motion and added P. 3, Delete, lines 1 & 2, L. 3, Delete, in Option A and Option B, to clarify/complete the Dorman amendment.

AYES
NAYS
ABSENT


ANDERSON, Irv
CARLSON, Lyndon
CLARK, Karen
DORMAN, Dan
DORN, John
GREILING, Mindy
HILTY, Bill
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
LARSON, Dan
MARIANI, Carlos
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
SOLBERG, Loren
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva
KNOBLACH, Jim
ABRAMS, Ron
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUSEGENS, Mark
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMLITON, Rod
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OZMENT, Dennis
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SYKORA, Barb
VANDAVEER, Ray

ABELER, Jim


ABSTAIN
ERHARDT, Ron
DEMPSEY, Jerry


On a vote of 17 AYES and 18 NAYS THE AMENDMENT TO THE KNRES8A2 AMENDMENT WAS NOT ADOPTED.

Representative Solberg renewed his motion for a roll call on HR8. The results were as follow:

AYES
NAYS
ABSENT


KNOBLACH, Jim
DEMPSEY, Jerry
ABRAMS, Ron
BEARD, Mike
BRADLEY, Fran
BUSEGENS, Mark
DORMAN, Dan
ERHARDT, Ron
GUNTHER, Bob
HAMLITON, Rod
HOLBERG, MaryLiz
KLINZING, Karen
KRINKIE, Phil
McNAMARA, Denny
NORNES, Bud
OZMENT, Dennis
RUTH, Connie
SEIFERT, Marty
SMITH, Steve
SYKORA, Barb
VANDAVEER, Ray
ANDERSON, Irv
CARLSON, Lyndon
CLARK, Karen
DORN, John
GREILING, Mindy
HILTY, Bill
HUNTLEY, Thomas
KELLIHER, Margaret
LARSON, Dan
MARIANI, Carlos
OTREMBA, Mary Ellen
PAYMAR, Michael
RUKAVINA, Tom
SOLBERG, Loren
WAGENIUS, Jean
WALKER, Neva
ABELER, Jim


ABSTAIN

DEMPSEY, Jerry



7:36:58 PM On a vote of 20 AYES and16 NAYS THE MOTION PREVAILED.

The meeting was adjourned.


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Representative Jim Knoblach, Chair


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Shirley Koderick, Committee Legislative Assistant